Syamasundara dasa: The mind is aware that there is an ultimate reality, a thing in itself, a noumenon, which produces each phenomenon. But because the mind is not equipped to sense this ultimate reality, the mind must forever remain agnostic.
Srila... moreSyamasundara dasa: The mind is aware that there is an ultimate reality, a thing in itself, a noumenon, which produces each phenomenon. But because the mind is not equipped to sense this ultimate reality, the mind must forever remain agnostic.
Srila Prabhupada: Why agnostic? He should go to higher authorities. If we hear a sound on the roof, we may speculate that the sound is this or that, but with our imperfect senses we cannot ascertain what made the sound. But if someone is actually on the roof, he can tell us, "The sound was made by this." Why should we remain satisfied with an agnostic position? We should satisfy ourselves by asking, "Is there someone on the roof?" If someone says, "Yes, I am here," then we can ask him what made the sound. Therefore the Vedas enjoin: tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet ( Mundaka Upanisad 1.2.12). In order to understand what is beyond the senses, we must approach a spiritual master who can impart information. When we actually want to understand transcendental subjects, we must approach a guru. And what is a guru?
tasmad gurum prapadyeta
jijnasuhsreya uttamam
sabde pare ca nisnatam
brahmany upasamasrayam
"Any person who is seriously desirous of achieving real happiness must seek out a bona fide spiritual master and take shelter of him by initiation. A spiritual master must have realized the conclusion of the scriptures by deliberation and arguments and thus be able to convince others of these conclusions. Such great personalities who have taken complete shelter of the Supreme Godhead, leaving aside all material considerations, are to be understood as bona fide spiritual masters." (Bhag. 11.3.21) A guru is one who is well versed in the Vedic literatures, sruti. And how can we understand that he is? Brahmany upasamasrayam. One who knows the Vedas forgets everything material and concerns himself only with spirit soul.
(Dialectic Spiritualism: A Vedic View of Western Philosophy - Chapter VII: German Idealism - Immanuel Kant - By His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada)
Hare Krishna to all. I have been going with this Ajay prabhuji to that so called maharaj discourse that says he is a disciple of Prabhupada. But when i talked about or the talk was talked about living guru and chanting i asked a question about living... moreHare Krishna to all. I have been going with this Ajay prabhuji to that so called maharaj discourse that says he is a disciple of Prabhupada. But when i talked about or the talk was talked about living guru and chanting i asked a question about living gurus and i explained that about vapu and vani. Physical association versus contact. And also at iskcon also when they were talking in the hallway. I remember one thing this so called guru came to say from a little distance in the prasadam hall. He was saying there is radharani in every home just like the spiritual world. Now he might mean to say something, i do not know but at the same time i think he said what he said but his words were that. And i do not know all the knowledge of Srila Prabhupada's books that i have. And i am having problems with sleep so i do not remember the conversation in that big prasadam hall but after realizing that was he was saying was not true. at least not entirely. That sounds like mayavada philosophy. Everything in the material world is a perversion of the spiritual world. So he should be elaborate or say something like that when talking to someone. Anyways why the hell am i being introspective about my experience in iskcon in my mind. Iskcon has those changed books instead of the original changes that i saw on bookchanges.com. So why am i being so introspective about iskcon. I see the faults of both of them that Madhudvisa dasa talked about in iskcon. Yet i go with Ajay prabhuji and i am attracted to them because of going with i got the determination to do it but problem is they do not have the mood of pure devotional service. And Madhudvisa dasa said stay away from iskcon. so at least by whatever i have chanted and devotional service i have performed even though it is not. I have been sleep deprived so i am in so much distress and even more distressing is in my mind i am having dual thoughts. One is that i should go and associate with iskcon and that maharaja because they are closest thing i have to devotional service in my area and the other is let me tolerate all this distress alone or that i have a old friend who also has autism and schizoaffective(bipolar and schzophrenia together) and he seems very intellectual and seems to have an innate nature and maybe read bhagavad gita to him and chant hare krishna mantra rounds so that my mind will not act this crazy if he is open and willing. less
Kamalnath KamalnayanSo ISKCON has become an institution where the majority of members are practicing Krishna consciousness or devotional service to some extent, but not completely purely. Many members of ISKCON today have some motivation, some personal desire to fulfill... moreSo ISKCON has become an institution where the majority of members are practicing Krishna consciousness or devotional service to some extent, but not completely purely. Many members of ISKCON today have some motivation, some personal desire to fulfill through their devotional service. It's understandable enough as there has been a history, since Srila Prabhupada's departure, of leaders who are themselves materially motivated. Many of the former leaders of ISKCON have fallen away and in retrospect it can be seen that they were not pure devotees at all. The leader has a big effect on his followers and a cheating leader tends to attract cheating followers. So the current institution, ISKCON, can be very difficult if one is sincerely trying to practice pure devotional service, as that mood is no longer there.
My personal position is that I have absolute faith in Srila Prabhupada, my spiritual master, and Krishna and I am trying with all my energy and intelligence to engage myself and everyone else in the... less
Kamalnath Kamalnayan
Hare Krishna Sarnaduti Brahma and the rest of krishnaconnect.com. Can someone give me some response insight or knowledge they have about i said above and how me going to iskcon and sarnaduti brahma's last comment or response fit in.
Mon at 10:07 AM
Sarnaduti BrahmaHare Krishna Kamalnath Kamalnayan. Your question is unclear to me. I have already mentioned my response, insight or knowledge about what you said above in my previous comments. Do you have a question about that, because what do you mean by my last... moreHare Krishna Kamalnath Kamalnayan. Your question is unclear to me. I have already mentioned my response, insight or knowledge about what you said above in my previous comments. Do you have a question about that, because what do you mean by my last comment or response "fit in" with what you said above?
Kamalnath KamalnayanHare Krishna Sarnaduti Brahma. What i seem to get from Madhudvisa dasa and what i maybe experiencing or think i am experiencing is that they is still some Krishna Consciousness practiced to some varying degrees. For example they still chant the Hare... moreHare Krishna Sarnaduti Brahma. What i seem to get from Madhudvisa dasa and what i maybe experiencing or think i am experiencing is that they is still some Krishna Consciousness practiced to some varying degrees. For example they still chant the Hare Krishna mantra and some things. They seem like mixed devotees. for themselves as individuals they seem to be in a better position than materialists or general population who have no idea about Krishna Consciousness. Again i am not arguing here. I seem to be helpless. they are the closest thing to association in Krishna Consciousness even though they are not ideal. Does not mean i have given up. Going to the temple and eating their "prasadam" has helped me somewhat like still be able to sleep if if it is not an ideal sleep. But my mental condition was much worse before. I am not saying they are perfect. They still have those changed books that i compared to the one i have. and much less color plates. And did not Madhudvisa dasa say that their bhagavad gita... less
I am warning the people who are deleting my post or just responsible in any way whatsoever to delete my posts. If my posts gets deleted i will curse this site. This is a warning. Not an actual curse. It is really sinful and very offensive to treat... moreI am warning the people who are deleting my post or just responsible in any way whatsoever to delete my posts. If my posts gets deleted i will curse this site. This is a warning. Not an actual curse. It is really sinful and very offensive to treat people who are endeavouring so hard in Krishna Consciousness 24 hours even if my mind goes on other things. I have not been able to sleep properly and my mind in despair but i am still endeavoring to do Krishna Consciousness. 16 rounds, 4 regulative principles and 1-2 hours reading. I have been unable to concentrate on these things. All i have been doing is trying to chant Hare Krishna more or less. I try counting but could not focus on it. And despite that fact it is sinful and offensive to treat a child or childlike nature really badly like you do. Just for doing this is very offensive. You guys are chanting Hare Krishna and 4 regulative principles and 1-2 hours reading his books or at least trying to do that is good. But you guys are committing a big offense when you guys shun me like the way you do on this site. Aman prabhuji was talking about people being disturbed the other day. Maybe what is happening with me is disturbing. All i am doing is sharing my struggle and this is what i get. Shame on you all. Wow i was about to curse. You guys better not test me anymore. Even if you shun me like blocking me or anything i will put a curse on this site. To have this site shut down completely because my honesty is being put under the rug whether Krishna does it the next second and gradually over an undefined period of time. Whatever words i said have their effect whether anyone reads this or reads this fully or do whatever to delete before it is even posted and deleted and what not. And no social networking site you will be whoever runs this site will be open if Krishna fulfills and wills my curse. And even if you do happen to open one or more or whatever i will put a curse that you have major problems running that site. I am not putting a curse because it is offensive to curse devotees or aspiring devotees. Krishna says even a little efforts saves them and goes a long if they are able to not attain full Krishna Consciousness. I know it has saved me or in the process of saving me. I pray to Srila Prabhupada, Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Nityananda Prabhu, Balarama and Radharani and Krishna i never fall down and go back to my old habits that i have been. This site is Krishna too. Just like Krishna names, pastimes, quality, etc are all Krishna. I am able to say all this i this information because i have read bits and pieces from Prabhupada books. like sometimes. text. Sometimes one chapter, sometimes two chapter from some or all of Prabhupada's books and krishna.org and back2godhead in the past. This site is Krishna too. But i do not want to put a curse too as this site has touched a lot of lives and is still touching in some ways. I might not a curse if i change my mind but if i did not this site is doomed. And i pray to Srila Prabhupada, Sri-Krishna Chaitanya Prabhu, Nityananda, Sri Advaita Acharya, Srivasa gaura bhakta vrinda,(wow this just came out. i did not even mean to say it consciously. as i am writing my mind is racing and words coming out as i am writing them. Imagine if Srila Prabhupada had computers in his time and he knew to to use a computer. He would have written more literature. He might have even completed the whole Srimad Bhagavatam if Krishna willed it. And we would have all 12 cantos instead of the ten and other 2 cantos translated by someone who is not a pure devotee of Krishna. I went with Ajay prabhuji to iskcon and this maharaj class who is saying he is a disciple of Srila Prabhupada and he has been. Actually i was sleep deprived when i went to his class. he was talking about the living guru concept something and also when i asked questions about the process he said you do not need to be a chanting machine. Like what in the world?. Now thinking about it. He says he is a disciple of Srila Prabhupada yet he is not following what Srila Prabhupada said and preaching all nonsense and have some person's photo who is a maharaj of some sort. And in the past you can search google and find iskcon black list where it talks about these iskcon so-called gurus and i search about him after i went home and found it on the same site as i went there in the past. i do not think i read the whole thing but i got the gist. Not that i am telling anyone not to read the whole thing. It is good to read anything in Srila Prabhupada's books even if you do not read it from start to finish.Actually it is good to get obsessive because if you can use that obsessive in Krishna Consciousness you can achieve anything. Especially Krishna Consciousness. You have to have a strong desire to really achieve something now that i realize. And if you keep desiring to be Krishna Consciousness ultimately you will achieve it. So me i had this desire and was not always so sincere. Sometimes i was sincere sometimes not. Like i chanted whatever i can either on tulsi beads or mala or on my hands or like this when i could not concentrate on counting. Now i have finally after all this struggle have gotten more established and a very strong will to do 16 rounds of japa, 4 regulative principles and 1-2 hours chanting the Hare Krishna mantra. I was in distress today and i went on a long walk because my mind and i kept chanting harekrishna and in between when i was not chanting i cried please Srila Prabhupada, Sri Krishna Chaitanya Prabhu nityananda, Sri-advaita, gadhadhara, srivasi, gaura bhakta vrinda please please i want to be purely Krishna Conscious and i cried in distress because my mind was going all over the place and i was in despair in hell for a while. When people are in distress and all that they are a prisoner in their own minds more than anything. This material world is a prison for sure. But the real prison is when someone is trapped in their minds and in distress and what not. I need to read more about that by reading the Bhagavad Gita and other books of Srila Prabhupada from start to finish. So as of now i will do my best or just i will put all the time i can in chanting 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra, 4 regulative principles and 1-2 hours of reading Srila Prabhupada's books and getting up before 4am. I will do this no matter what now at any cost if if my mind something come up but i will not listen to it and put all my effort and time in chanting 16 rounds of the Hare Krishna mantra, 4 regulative principles and 1-2 hours of reading Srila Prabhupada's books and getting up before 4 am. Now i am not saying do not go to sleep and do all this and go through all this struggle unnecessarily. This was my situation. And it would be very intelligent if one does all this things immediately if one can. Do not get distracted by anything in the material world because material world is a place full of distractions and thorns and suffering. And it is easy to get distracted. And yes they will always be tests and i need to Srila Prabhupada's books and also read krishna.org madhudvisa dasa as it is withering but yes. Anyways maybe i will have more knowledge once i do the process. less
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